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SCP (J1850) Invalid or Missing Data for Primary Id

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Severity

Medium

Can I keep driving?

Usually drivable, but get it diagnosed without delay.

First step

Because the transmitting module is not named by this code, narrow it down by elimination.

  • UNetwork
  • 1Manufacturer-specific
  • 1Network / Communication
  • 12Sequence number

What does it mean?

OBD II fault code U1112 is a manufacturer-specific trouble code that is defined by carmakers Ford and Mazda as “SCP (J1850) Invalid or Missing Data for Primary Id”, and is set when the PCM (Powertrain Control Module) detects the failure of a control module to identify itself while transmitting data over a communications network.

Note the following in the context of this code- “SCP” stands S tandard C ommunications P rotocol “Primary ID” refers to a control module that controls, monitors, or manages a clearly defined set of functions, but note that in the case of code U1112 on Ford and Mazda applications, that control module is not identified “J1850” is a shortened expression of SAE Standard J1850, which is the standard that describes a serial communications protocol used by Ford and Mazda since 1996 This protocol uses a pulse width modulated signal to transmit data at average speeds of up to 41.6 kilobytes per second, although some versions of this protocol can transmit data at higher rates There are currently several hundred generic as well as manufacturer-specific trouble codes in common use that include the phrase “Invalid or Missing Data for Primary Id”.

In some cases, the area of concern is indicated by information that may include the name of a specific control module and/or system, but in many more cases, no information identifies the area of concern. See the section on possible causes of code U1112 for more details All modern vehicles use complex serial communications systems to distribute information about the operational status of dozens of systems and operating parameters between control modules.

While there are significant design and technical differences between the various communications protocols and system topologies (system architectures) between vehicle manufacturers, all serial communications systems have the function of maintaining communications between control modules to ensure the safe and efficient operation of the vehicle. One example of this need would be the distribution of information about the rates at which all the wheels rotate.

In practice, this information is collected by wheel speed sensors that transmit the data to the ABS control module, which then relays it to the PCM and other control modules such as Traction-, and Stability Control Modules, since these modules use the ABS system to maintain and/or restore the vehicle’s stability.

In terms of practicalities though, each control module that shares information with other modules has a unique identifying code, which code is included in all data transmissions made by that control module. Moreover, all control modules are programmed with the identifying codes of all other control modules on a given network, and this information is compared during the transmission and reception of data.

Thus, all control modules always “know” which control module transmitted which data, regardless of the system involved. Moreover, all control modules that share a network also “know” what type of information all other control modules on that network are supposed to transmit. Put in another way, all control modules are programmed to transmit the operating parameters of the system, part, or component they control, manage, or monitor.

These parameters are transmitted in strictly organized/structured messages, and all monitored parameters must be included in all data transmissions for the transmitted data to be valid. Therefore, to maintain a serial communication system’s integrity, all receiving control modules that share that network perform “checksum” checks, in which all expected information must be included, along with the transmitting module’s unique identifying code.

If all expected information is received, all receiving modules will acknowledge the data transmission to the transmitting module in a structured message that confirms that the received information agrees with the information that was expected. However, in cases where a transmitting control module

Symptoms

  • MIL (check engine lamp) on together with warning lamps for other systems
  • Several modules missing or dropping in and out on the scan tool
  • Gauges, warning lamps or driver information displays behaving erratically
  • Intermittent faults in unrelated systems that appear and clear on their own
  • Difficulty establishing a scan tool connection at the diagnostic socket
  • Occasional no-start or stalling when a critical module drops off the network

Likely causes

  • Open circuit, short or high resistance in the single-wire serial data line, often at a splice pack or repair joint
  • A module losing its power feed or ground momentarily, so its transmission is incomplete
  • Corroded terminals at the diagnostic connector or in a bulkhead connector
  • Electrical noise from a failing alternator with high AC ripple, or from aftermarket electronics tapped into the network
  • A module that is failing internally and sending corrupted messages with a bad checksum
  • Water damage in a harness section shared by several modules
  • Corrupted or incomplete module software after an interrupted programming session

How to fix it

  1. Scan every module, list which ones answer, and record all stored communication codes to see which network segment is affected
  2. Check charging system output and AC ripple, since a failing alternator diode injects noise into the data line
  3. Inspect splice packs, ground points and bulkhead connectors for corrosion, moisture and loose terminals
  4. Verify power and ground at each suspect module while loading the circuit
  5. Disconnect modules one at a time and watch whether the network recovers, which isolates the module sending corrupted data
  6. Remove any aftermarket device connected to the data line and retest
  7. Repair the harness and connectors first, then update or replace the identified module and verify communication over several drive cycles

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This information follows the generic OBD-II definition and does not replace a vehicle-specific diagnosis. The severity rating is rule-based; an authorised diagnostic reading is required for a definitive answer.