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Input/Turbine Speed Sensor Circuit No Signal

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Severity

High

Can I keep driving?

Avoid extended driving; visit a service soon.

First step

A typical diagnostic sequence used by mechanics, provided here for educational reference only. Diagnostic work should be performed by a qualified mechanic with the appropriate tools and training. 1. Read the codes and the freeze-frame data, then note whether P0717 is sitting alongside other gearbox codes like P0700 or fluid temperature faults. The full picture matters here 2. Get under the car and inspect the sensor connector and the loom running to it.

  • PPowertrain
  • 0Generic code
  • 7Transmission
  • 17Sequence number

What does it mean?

In the modern automatic transmission, most functions have ceased to be driven purely hydraulically. At its core, it still uses hydraulic pressure to engage and disengage gear positions, but electronic sensors and actuators have taken over much of the everyday operation of the system.

The transmission control module (TCM) may or may not be separate from the engine control module (ECM), and is responsible for the operation of the automatic transmission, including torque converter operation, pressure regulation, gear positions, and self-monitoring. Some of the principal sensors that the TCM uses to control and monitor automatic transmission operation are the input and output speed sensors, as well as the engine speed sensor (RPM), from the ECM.

Aside from using these sensors to control clutch and brake pressure, engagement, and timing, it can use this information to determine the condition of the brakes and clutches and confirm the operation of the transmission. For example, if the TCM commands torque converter lockup, it would expect to see RPM and TSS (turbine speed sensor) to be equal. Similarly, if the TCM commands 3 rd Gear, it can calculate that output shaft speed should be a certain percentage of TSS speed.

If there are differences, usually lower speed than expected, the TCM would flag this as a fault in the transmission. The TCM also monitors the turbine speed sensor itself for problems, which it would expect to find in a certain range and change speeds at a certain rate. If the TCM detects problems with the TSS or TSS circuit, it will set a diagnostic trouble code (DTC) in memory and command the ECM to illuminate the check engine light.

Usually, in the case of DTC P0717, “Input/Turbine Speed Sensor No Signal,” this refers to an unstable or intermittent signal, perhaps no signal at all, depending on the automaker’s specific programming. Additionally, DTC P0700, “Transmission Control System Malfunction,” may be set, simply an informational code regarding a problem with the TCM.

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This information follows the generic OBD-II definition and does not replace a vehicle-specific diagnosis. The severity rating is rule-based; an authorised diagnostic reading is required for a definitive answer.