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SCP (J1850) Invalid or Missing Data for Primary Id

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Severity

Medium

Can I keep driving?

Usually drivable, but get it diagnosed without delay.

First step

Read codes in every module and identify which controllers report missing data, since that shows where the break sits

  • UNetwork
  • 1Manufacturer-specific
  • 1Network / Communication
  • 01Sequence number

What does it mean?

OBD II fault code U1101 is a manufacturer specific code that is defined as “SCP (J1850) Invalid or Missing Data for Primary Id”, and is set when the PCM (Powertrain Control Module) detects a break or interruption in communication between itself and the primary control module in a given system, which in the case of code U1101, is the transmission control module on most applications.

NOTE: Note that General Motors defines code U1101 as “Loss of Serial Communications for Class 2 Devices”, which amounts to much the same thing as the definition given above. SPECIAL NOTES: It should be noted that there are several dozen manufacturer specific trouble codes that have the “SCP (J1850) Invalid or Missing Data for Primary Id” definition.

In all cases, these codes can be decoded in the following manner- “SCP” refers to the Standard Corporate Protocol, which is one of several communications protocols in use by different vehicle manufacturers “J1850” refers to the SAE standard that describes the SCP communications protocol “Primary Id” refers to the identification code each control module in a CAN (Controller Area Network) serial bus communications system has.

When a vehicle is in operation, all the control modules in a vehicle communicate with each other via the CAN bus system. During data transmissions, each control module sends its unique identification code along with its data transmission, and other control modules use this identification code to identify the source of the data transmission.

Therefore, and in the context of code U1101, the Primary Id refers to the transmission control module as the originator of a data transmission, hence the reference to “Primary Id”. It should be noted though that while many codes referring to Primary Id’s identify the relevant control module, most do not, which makes it imperative that all codes in this class be researched thoroughly before a diagnosis is attempted. END OF SPECIAL NOTES.

As a practical matter, CAN bus systems are composed of hundreds of circuits that interconnect all the control modules on a vehicle. Moreover, CAN bus systems are set up in such a manner that data from a particular control module is shared with many other modules, with the PCM acting as a sort of clearing house for all data transmissions.

In the case of code U1101, which refers to the transmission control module on most vehicles, data concerning shift points, torque converter lock-up clutch control, and others is shared with several other control modules. These typically include the throttle control module (on drive-by-wire systems), the fuel control module, ignition control, and others that may include the traction-, stability-, and cruise control modules.

We need not delve into the technical complexities of the relationships between these control modules here, but suffice to say that the result of these relationships is that the transmission control module exercises a great deal of control over several engine control functions to make gear shifts more comfortable, to reduce emissions, and to protect transmission components against the effects of aggressive accelerations.

Thus, when a defect, malfunction, or failure exists between the transmission control module and the PCM that prevents data being transmitted from the transmission control module to the PCM, either or both the PCM and transmission control module will recognize that several critical engine control functions cannot be executed, and one or both control modules will set code U1101, and illuminate one or more warning lights.

Note that in some cases, the transmission may also be forced into a fail-safe or limp mode as a safety precaution.

Symptoms

  • Check engine light (MIL) on together with transmission and other warning lamps
  • Transmission forced into fail-safe or limp mode, often stuck in a single gear
  • Harsh, delayed or missing gear changes
  • Torque converter lock-up not engaging, raising RPM and fuel consumption on the motorway
  • Cruise control unavailable and throttle response feeling restricted
  • Scan tool cannot communicate with the transmission controller, or loses it intermittently

Likely causes

  • Open circuit, high resistance or short on the serial data lines between the transmission controller and the PCM
  • Corroded, wet or loosely latched connector at either module
  • Transmission controller without power or ground because of a fuse, relay or corroded earth point
  • Internal fault in the transmission control module or in the PCM
  • Damaged harness at the transmission bulkhead pass-through or along the engine
  • Module software or configuration mismatch after a replacement or reprogramming
  • Low system voltage causing modules to reset and drop off the network

How to fix it

  1. Read codes in every module and identify which controllers report missing data, since that shows where the break sits
  2. Test the battery and charging system, then clear codes and see which return under good voltage
  3. Inspect and reseat the connectors at both the transmission controller and the PCM, checking pin tension and corrosion
  4. Do voltage drop tests on the power feeds and grounds of the transmission control module
  5. Check the serial data lines between the two modules for continuity, shorts to ground and shorts to battery voltage
  6. Wiggle test the harness at the bulkhead pass-through and along the engine while monitoring communication status
  7. Verify the software and configuration levels of both modules match the vehicle and reprogram if needed
  8. Replace a control module only when wiring, grounds, supply voltage and configuration have all been proven good

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This information follows the generic OBD-II definition and does not replace a vehicle-specific diagnosis. The severity rating is rule-based; an authorised diagnostic reading is required for a definitive answer.